Seems like we have two sides in this country. Liberal side: Tax the crap out of the “wealthy”…we already do that. But they should give more…it isn’t fair to lower income (sorry, I am sure there is some ridiculous new term that I am supposed to use, I just didn’t get my list this week) people that others earn more. When did anyone in this world get promised fair? Just having a job (or being on welfare) in America puts you in the top 10% of the world’s income earners…make more than 45K? Top 1% of the world. Is that fair? Should we all be forced to give 90% of what we earn and share it with the world?
Also…you should probably know that if your household earns $145K per year, you are in the top 10% of American households…so, your income taxed at 90% means you would bring home 14.5K a year to spend…or a little more than $1200 a month. Yes…a yearly household income of $145K puts you in the top ten percent… not tens of millions, not millions, $145K…just hard working people looking to keep their families housed and fed.
This average family that earns $145K, they bring home around $96K annually. $8K per month…average housing, transportation, and food costs (these are all things the government isn’t giving you in this utopian society, by the way) alone account for about $5200 of that… not including emergencies or unforeseen expenditures. That leaves $2800 for clothes, utilities, miscellaneous expenses, and hopefully savings (things also not included in this version of the “government provides free things” society) so they can retire. Wow! Seems like that isn’t as super wealthy as it sounds…so let’s say it isn’t going to be 90% but an equally upsetting 70%…then they would bring home about $43K a year or about $3500 a month. Oops…guess you can’t keep your house if you want to eat. But this is great for society…remember a few years back when all those houses were walked out on? Wasn’t that a grand time?
Oh…that isn’t it at all…they want an equal distribution…they don’t want to take away from that guy…just the ultra-wealthy…what if we only went after the top 1%. Want to guess what it takes to be a 1 percenter? 1 million, 5 million…maybe 15? What if I told you it was only $369K. Yes…a household with $369K yearly income is a 1 percenter. So…your average anesthesiologist alone is just about there. Hmm…yep, he certainly doesn’t deserve to have that much. Why should he have more than the entry level, unskilled (I am sure someone will nail me for using that term as well) worker?
Again…who decides how much is enough? Sure…when you don’t earn $10 million a year, it sounds great to take 100% of everything over a million. Certainly a million dollars is enough for anyone to live on, right? But what gives any of us the right to decide that? What if we said 100K or 50K was enough for any family to live on?
No one is entitled to anything in this country except life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Nothing says you are entitled to have the same houses, cars, or lifestyles as anyone else. This country is still the land of opportunity…not entitlement. Watch Chopped sometime and see the stories of the people who come here with $100 and a suitcase. They take whatever job they can find and they work hard and save their money (key part of the story…save money)…and now they own restaurants. No one gave them anything except an opportunity…and they worked hard and made the most of it. Just being in this country is the opportunity. What you do with it is on you…stop waiting for someone else to give you things.
When did we become the “Society for punishing the successful”? You know what 70, 80, or even 90% tax rate (or the 100% of everything over a million) will do? It will drive the businesses and the high value worker out of the country, taking the tax base with them, and leave all those who want everything given to them standing around with no one to pay for it all. Hope you enjoy the World Football League because no team is staying here with that plan in place.
Should we spend more on education than on the prison system? Absolutely…prison should suck…Why should a prisoner have things that the hard working families can’t afford? They shouldn’t. So fix the system…but stop throwing good money after bad. Demand that your local governments spend $30K per student and $10K per prisoner yearly…because it is the opposite right now. You want better access to healthcare? Fix the system…vote out all the people who caused the problem, vote out the representatives that the healthcare lobby owns and vote in the ones who want to fix it. Welfare isn’t a huge problem for the country (it isn’t great, but it is far from crippling us).
A huge problem is healthcare/disability fraud which costs us billions a year. People trying to buck the system because they feel entitled to something. Over refunding tax credits to those who paid in less than the credit they get costs us $88 billion dollars annually. Let’s fight that and put those billions of existing dollars and put them back into helping those that truly require help.
Look at how our government has handled the money they have taken from us so far. Do you think they are capable of properly spending no matter how much we give them? Does anyone think that all this tax money they intend to raise is going to be handed out to those who don’t have as much? Ha…good luck with that.
I bet if you read the fine print on all of these high tax proposals, it will have an exclusion list that includes politicians, just like the affordable care act does…if it is good enough for all of us, why not them? Hillary commands $650K per speaking engagement (yet she complains about CEO wages), do you think she wants to part with more of that? If she did, why not lower the fees and let the people keep more of their money? By the way…these same senators and such average about $174K per year and complain that it isn’t enough…so how can $145K be too much for you and me? These are the same people that if they serve long enough (six years), will receive pensions in perpetuity…wonder where all that money is going to come from…
Bernie Sanders wants to use Denmark as a guideline. OK….
This isn’t true socialism they will tell you…it is a plan for a Socialist Democracy….should I have to explain that we don’t actually live in a democracy? We live in a republic. While we have a democratic election process, there is a massive difference.
Democracy: Majority rules always. Republic: Majority rules, but a system of checks and balances exists to protect the rights of the individual. The fact that people don’t know that, yet vote in our elections, scares the crap out of me.
But, I guess calling it a Socialist republic would be scary…since that is the same as the last two letters in USSR…
But let’s leave the semantics of what we call the plan aside. Denmark…here are some facts that may make you think twice.
Personal income tax rate in Denmark? Somewhere in the neighborhood of 60%. But this isn’t just for the wealthy….anyone earning more than $6200 US pays at least 37.48% on the amount over that. Everyone over $50120 US…59% of everything over that… plus property taxes, municipal taxes, and the 25% sales tax.
Those of you who already complain that the lower income brackets can’t afford to pay any taxes, get ready to be hammered. if you make $20K yearly now, you probably don’t pay anything in taxes…in Denmark’s system, you would pay approximately $5000. Enjoy that.
The Danes exist this way because they always have, they don’t fear the government and they live within their means…that last point is key…Oh, they also used to take pride in working and contributing…now, times are a changin’.
It isn’t that utopia you are hoping for…the jobless rate in Denmark is increasing as more people find no reason to work…since they make more on the guaranteed state income than they do working a menial job and paying the taxes…They have only 3 of 98 counties with more than 50% of the people working, down from 59 counties not that long ago…the economy is falling and the government is going to have to cut back on what it can provide.
But…we have socialist programs already…everyone pays into the education system, isn’t that socialism? I get it…we have many social programs that the population has voted to create and maintain. Police, schools, roads, etc…these are all necessary and a must-have for our society to not dissolve. But let’s dive deeper into them. Our infrastructure is falling apart, schools are failing, Medicare is a joke, and most of the money we all paid into Social Security has been borrowed for use in other programs. So…if we fund all of these programs, and they are poorly managed and always short on money…then why do we think adding a litany of other programs (and massive taxes to fund it all) will be any better? You know what happens to a fund manager who takes his clients’ investments and “borrows” the money for something else? Prison. Yet our government does it every day…
So…you want free healthcare, free education…what comes next? If everyone is entitled to free education, what about free housing? Free transportation? Those are also important to living…You want to know something? The misleading term in all of this is free. It isn’t free…that “free” you want everyone to have is coming out of someone’s pocket and based on my tax bill this year, my pocket.
I will tell you this, if I were a successful adult that worked my way out of a crappy neighborhood, with crappy schools, and did it on my own by working, saving, and doing whatever I had to do to make a better life for me and my family, I would be pissed at all these whiny snots who say they can’t get anywhere because of their circumstances. Screw you! He studied and cared which certainly wasn’t cool. He worked two, maybe three jobs to get through college. He graduated and started at the bottom and through effort and determination, got himself to somewhere he considers successful. But you want everything given to you without putting forth effort? BS!
So how do we fix the imbalance? We don’t…well, not through legislation and taxation anyway. You do it through your wallet and your vote. Don’t like a certain company’s CEO pay, don’t buy their products. Think your bank is too powerful, pull your accounts and go local. Don’t like Walmart, don’t shop there. Think Beyonce makes too much money? Don’t buy her stuff…don’t read the articles…don’t feed the monster. People complain that the Kardashians exist in every facet of our lives. Don’t watch, don’t follow, and don’t support. Stop buying the books…don’t click the clickbait…You have the power. Don’t vote for the politician who takes lobbyist money. Let them know you are fed up, you are the answer.
Then we have the other side…
Conservative – We need to control the individual rights of the population. Dictate what you can and can’t do on a daily basis. Morality should be law. Don’t give money to the poor, give it to corporations.
What does it matter if a man marries a man? How does that affect your life? If you don’t like it, don’t do it. Same gender marriage does not invalidate the sanctity of marriage. Really? It does? Then what does divorce do to that same sanctity? Why don’t we ban divorce? What was that? Oh you mean the part in your bible that states, “…And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery” (Matthew 19:9) Oh yeah, don’t forget Malachi 2:16 when God says, “I hate divorce!” Hmmm…On one hand he says that a man who lay with a man is an abomination and so same-sex marriage is evil…but when he says bluntly that he hates divorce…ehhh…that’s ok. You can’t have it both ways. If you ban same sex marriage because your religion says so, then ban divorce because your religion says so…or…leave your morality out of the government. I prefer that one…
Why is it that those that seem to push hardest for anti-anything laws are then found to be committing those same acts they wish to condemn? What’s the saying about protesting something a bit too much? Stuff done between consenting adults in their own private space. What right do any of us have to tell people what they can do at home? Who the hell do these people think they are? If I want to wear swim goggles, arm floaties, and spray paint my legs blue while my wife smacks my feet with ping pong paddles and yodels the Swiss national anthem, what do you care? How in any way does that affect your ability to live your life? It doesn’t! Stay out of it…
I am all for not taxing companies out of business, and any state or local governments that want to reduce taxes to entice businesses to set up shop and bring jobs to their communities are fine with me. But the corporate subsidies have to stop. Call it grants, tax credits, whatever…why does a company like Intel, which cleared net income of around 15 billion last year, need 6 billion in tax credits? Nike, 2 billion in corporate subsidies? How about giving those credits to the little guy trying to stay afloat? Why are some of the most successful companies receiving tax dollars?
Schools are failing to educate our children. No Child Left Behind, anyone? But if we put prayer in school, everything will magically get better. Sure it will….Instead, how about we leave the religion to the parents and get back to teaching kids how to think. Remove all of the mid-level bureaucracy, the power of the unions that leave schools without the ability to fire a bad teacher, standardized testing, and the constant changes to teaching methods and let’s let the teachers teach. Put the money in the pockets of good teachers and spend for the proper supplies to create a learning environment. Stop teaching to mediocrity and rewarding students for achieving middle of the road. “Oh! My poor snowflake would be devastated if he wasn’t congratulated for being a C student”. Rewarding mediocrity is why we have those who think they are entitled to things without putting forth effort.
As a parent who understands mathematics (enjoys is probably a better term), I shouldn’t have to learn a new system of explaining math each year. I shouldn’t need to jump the rabbit over the fence to steal the carrot and run around the barnyard to explain anything (except perhaps how to tie a shoe…). Forget standardized tests that supposedly determine your child’s abilities. Push them…challenge them…young minds want that. Ask them things like, 8+5=10. Agree or Disagree? Explain. A standardized test says “disagree” and that is the only possible answer. Real world thinking says otherwise. 8+5=10 is a legitimate answer…if you think in base13. So why are we holding back children who can come up with that? Neither answer is wrong…it just takes some different thinking and room for teachers to have the flexibility (and ability) to encourage this.
What is the answer? Go third party…Show the rank and file that we are done being enslaved by the two party system. Let’s vote out every existing politician and get some new faces. Let’s lower the politician’s wages to the same scale as teachers. If the Senator for California got paid the entry level teacher’s salary, that might shake some things up a bit.
The fix for all of our problems is out there, we just need to rip the bandage off and take back control of our government and our country.